ummm.. its bilocutionI suggest moving the page to what its really calledanyone want to second the motion?
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Astral projection[edit]
Previously, this article included astral projection as a synonym for bilocation. The definition provided here, however, asserted that bilocation is physical, whereas the definition for astral projection states that phenomenon is spiritual or metaphysical. In addition to this difference in denotation, many differences in connotation exist. For instance astral projection is usually active, and thus associated with being magical, whereas bilocation is usually passive, and thus associated with being miraculous. I'll clarify what I mean by magical and miraculous, since the distinction is not necessarily obvious, and perhaps open to contention: miraculous refers to that which happens through the will of a deity, even through the inspired actions of a mortal; magical (as I mean it, anyway) refers to that which happens through the will of a mortal, even if assisted by a deity. âPreceding unsigned comment added by 140.185.96.57 (talk) 16:55, 19 September 2007 (UTC)
encyclopedia?[edit]
In an encyclopedia, can we accept stamentents without any proof, any source, any reliability as the following?'Another story involves a religious sister (nun) appearing to Native Americans in the American west.' If so, I can sell you the Trevi Fountain: I am the son of the owner!
well what about that!! I have no son.
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(the owner)
Something doesn't have to be true to be in wikipedia. The phrase exists and the stories about the phenomona exist, and that sufficient for a page to exist.
Sources now added.
perfectblue 17:32, 28 April 2007 (UTC)
disambiguation page needed[edit]
from bilocate some metal band.Benwetmore 04:33, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
Better version[edit]
The term was misappropriated by various paranormal enthusiasts for a very real term from Catholic Philosophy surrounding Eucharistic mysteries. To that end, I have a new version:
[1].
I intend to restore this version after an appropriate comment period.
ScienceApologist (talk) 08:45, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Christian usage is established. Other uses are welcome, but must be cited. If the article grows a good deal in either direction, a DAB page can be set up. -- Secisek (talk) 21:09, 31 December 2008 (UTC)
Question[edit]
I understand the concept of bilocation and multi-location, but are there proper terms for 'tri-'location; 'quad'-location 'sept'-location etc.? And I could be wrong, but I thought that 'bi-'location refers only to being in (2) 'two' places at the same time, and that 'multi-'location was more than (1) 'one' at the same time. 'bi-' location refers to a limitation of 'two' existences; and 'multi-location' can be two, three, four etc; even up to infinitismal, because 'multi-' means 'many' is not limited to 'two' as 'bi' is so limited. If I am correct about this, the beginning sentence is misleading. I didn't think that in correct usage multi-location was interchangeable with 'bi-'location.
You are right that bilocation cannot be interchange with multilocation. But bilocation is a subset of multilocation(every bilocation is multilocation but every multilocation is not bilocation). so bilocation is a type of multilocation. not same as multilocation.Holyvincent (talk) 07:46, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
this really needs a cite[edit]
'In Christianity, bilocation explains the dual location of Christ at the Last Supper in both the transubstantiated host and in the person of Jesus of Nazareth.' There's a BIG difference between bilocation (a person appearing to physically be in two places at once, with both appearances identical) and the Catholic doctrine of the presence of Christ in the Eucharist -- since, in Catholic doctrine (and other Trinitarian Christian beliefs) Christ was not -just- the physical man standing there, but also God. We need a cite saying that this has actually been called bilocation. 128.194.103.45 (talk) 21:43, 10 May 2009 (UTC)
Excessive number of citations[edit]
Does anyone else find that the number of citations in the introduction is excessive. One or two would be good, but when I wrote this there were seven citations for this term being used in shamanism, and many of the others have 3-5. Slogsweep (talk) 01:47, 26 July 2009 (UTC)
Its the mind state[edit]
Quectel qdloader 9008 software. I have also heard of another kind of Bilocation, its a state in the mind, not physical body. The body doesn't split, but the mind can exist in my different states and possibly lives. Now I try to look at the world from a mainly scientific (but open-minded) point of view (Quantum mind). I am aware that wikipedia discussion pages are for improving articles, but this is my point and I think this could provide an alternative description to the article (but not deleting the original description of the body splitting). 88.105.37.136 (talk) 11:10, 17 June 2010 (UTC)
![]() robert grave and bilocation??[edit]
robert grave is novelist and a poet and refers to bilocation in his fictional works.thus his mentions of the case are purely fictional and not factual.
if anyone has information about his factual work then please bring it....
Moreover robert grave was the one who helped to publish many works of idries shah and probably his claims were the same claims of idries shah( who was expert in sufism and considered sufism to predate islam.[1]Holyvincent (talk) 07:59, 21 June 2010 (UTC)
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BILOCATION IN OTHER FAITHS AND SPIRITUAL TRADITIONS[edit]
Anecdotal reports of bilocation are not confined to Catholic Christianity. The phenomena has been reported in the lives of numerous Indian Saints as well. Among modern spiritual adepts who allegedly have exhibited this phenomena are Ananda Moyi Ma, Ammachi, Lahiri Mahasaya and Swami Sri Yukteswar Giri.
In the Hindu tradition, bilocation is considered an outward proof that the consciousness of the adept has expanded beyond the physical body. The appearance of an identical physical form is said to be evidence that the person has attained a higher state of consciousness.
Max Muller and other western scholars who have studied the Indian tradition question whether or not such phenomena are real, and suggest that bilocation and other extraordinary demonstrations may be due to 'the dialogic process' or, the irrepressible miraculizing tendencies of devoted disciples.
As with Catholic Saints, the number of witnesses is substantial, and in some cases includes sceptics and multiple witnesses.
<AUTOBIOGRAPHY OF A YOGI - Paramahansa Yogananda>< RAMAKRISHNA AND HIS DISCIPLES - Christopher Isherwood>Aspendougy (talk) 01:28, 17 April 2011 (UTC)
Picture of St. Alphonse and caption[edit]
Regarding the [citation needed] tag, the article on him in the Catholic Encyclopedia and the bio in WP do not mention this alleged event. Unless a cite is provided soon, the picture and caption should be deleted. PraeceptorIP (talk) 18:16, 15 June 2015 (UTC)
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Hello,
I am fairly new to contributing to Wikipedia, but one of the newer additions to this section of the article seems really out of place. It is important to approach an issue from multiple angles and to present all significant sides; in fact, this is one of Wikipedia's main tenets. However, it seems this section is seeking to completely discredit the section above it rather than simply propose a contrasting perspective. In addition, it is doing so while violating the tenet of verifiability. Whereas the first section references one source and attributes the claims to that source, the paragraphs afterward take up a personal and conversational tone of an author writing a think-piece. It references multiple subjects including oceanography, lucid dreaming, and relativity, all without actually providing any sources for its claims, including one that suggests that the people who hold the opposite position are responsible for the deaths of 'untold numbers of sailors'!
If the author of this section wants to give his own opinions and commentary on anything in the article, I believe they are completely free to do so in the Talk section. I neither agree nor disagree with either of the positions. However, until further response or information comes to light, I will be removing the two latter paragraphs in their entirety for the sake of a neutral point of view and scholarly rigor.
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Who is it that loves and who that suffers? He alone stages a play with Himself; who exists save Him? The individual suffers because he perceives duality. It is duality which causes all sorrow and grief. Find the One everywhere and in everything and there will be an end to pain and suffering.[2]
Anandamayi Ma (née Nirmala Sundari; 30 April 1896 â 27 August 1982) was an Indian Hindu spiritual leader, described by Sivananda Saraswati (of the Divine Life Society) as 'the most perfect flower the Indian soil has produced.'[3]Precognition, faith healing and miracles were attributed to her by her followers.[4]Paramahansa Yogananda translates the Sanskrit epithet Anandamayi as 'Joy-permeated' in English. This name was given to her by her devotees in the 1920s to describe her perpetual state of divine joy.[5]
Biography[edit]Early life[edit]Ma Ananda Moyi Citations Online
Anandamayi was born Nirmala Sundari Devi (নিরà§à¦®à¦²à¦¾ সà§à¦¨à§à¦¦à¦°à§; Nirmôla Shundori, English: 'Immaculate, Beautiful Goddess') on 30 April 1896 to the orthodox Vaishnava Brahmin couple Bipinbihari Bhattacharya and Mokshada Sundari Devi in the village of Kheora, Brahmanbaria District, now in present-day Bangladesh.[5][1] Her father, originally from Vidyakut in Tripura, was a Vaishnavite singer known for his intense devotion. Both parents were from well regarded lineages, though the family lived in poverty. Nirmala attended a village school for approximately two years.[6] Although her teachers were pleased with her ability, her mother worried about her daughter's mental development because of her constantly indifferent and happy demeanor. When her mother once fell seriously ill, relatives too remarked with puzzlement about the child remaining apparently unaffected.
In 1908 at the age of thirteen, in keeping with the rural custom at the time, she was married to Ramani Mohan Chakrabarti of Vikramapura, whom she would later rename Bholanath.[6][7] She spent five years after her marriage at her brother-in-law's home, attending to housework in a withdrawn meditative state much of the time. It was here that a devout neighbor Harakumar, who was widely considered insane, recognised and announced her spiritual eminence, developed a habit of addressing her as 'Ma', and prostrated before her morning and evening in reverence.[8]
When Nirmala was about seventeen, she went to live with her husband who was working in the town of Ashtagram. In 1918, they moved to Bajitpur, where she stayed until 1924. It was a celibate marriageâwhenever thoughts of lust occurred to Ramani, Nirmala's body would take on the qualities of death.[9]
On the full moon night of August 1922, at midnight, twenty-six-year-old Nirmala enacted her own spiritual initiation.[10] She explained that the ceremony and its rites were being revealed to her spontaneously as and when they were called for.[8] Although uneducated on the matter, the complex rites corresponded to those of traditional, ancient Hinduism, including the offerings of flowers, the mystical diagrams (yantras) and the fire ceremony (yagna). She later stated, 'As the master (guru) I revealed the mantra; as the disciple (shishya) I accepted it and started to recite it.'[11]
Dhaka[edit]
Anandamayi Ma on a 1987 stamp of India
Nirmala moved to Shahbag with her husband in 1924, where he had been appointed as the caretaker of the gardens of the Nawab of Dhaka.[7] During this period Nirmala went into ecstasies at public kirtans.[6]
Jyotiscandra Ray, known as 'Bhaiji,' was an early and close disciple. He was the first to suggest that Nirmala be called Anandamayi Ma, meaning 'Joy Permeated Mother', or 'Bliss Permeated Mother'. He was chiefly responsible for the first ashram built for Anandamayi Ma in 1929 at Ramna, within the precinct of the Ramna Kali Mandir.[12]
In 1926, she reinstated a formerly abandoned ancient Kali temple in the Siddheshwari area.[7]
During the time in Shahbag, more and more people began to be drawn to what they saw to be a living embodiment of the divine.[13]
From this point onwards various scholars were drawn to Anandamayi Ma's spirituality and teaching, though she continued to describe herself as 'a little unlettered child'.[6]Mahamahopadhyay Gopinath Kaviraj, Sanskrit scholar, philosopher, and principal of Government Sanskrit College in Varanasi and Triguna Sen were among her early followers.[7]Uday Shankar, the famous dance artist, was impressed by Anandamayi Ma's analysis of dance, which she used as a metaphor for the relationship between people and God.[7] She was a contemporary of the well known Hindu saints like Udiya Baba and Paramahansa Yogananda.[5]
Death[edit]
Anandamayi Ma Ashram, Haridwar (Kankhal)
Ma died on 27 August 1982 in Dehradun, and subsequently on 29 August 1982[1] a Samadhi (shrine) was built in the courtyard of her Kankhal ashram, situated in Haridwar in North India.[7][14]
Teachings[edit]
As you love your own body, so regard everyone as equal to your own body. When the Supreme Experience supervenes, everyone's service is revealed as one's own service. Call it a bird, an insect, an animal or a man, call it by any name you please, one serves one's own Self in every one of them.
ââAnandamayi Ma, Ananda Varta Quarterly
Anandamayi Ma never prepared discourses, wrote down, or revised what she had said. People had difficulty transcribing her often informal talks because of their conversational speed. Further the Bengali manner of alliterative wordplay was often lost in translation. However a devotee, Brahmachari Kamal Bhattacharjee, made attempts to transcribe her speech before audio recording equipment became widely available in India.[8]
A central theme of her teaching is 'the supreme calling of every human being is to aspire to self realization. All other obligations are secondary' and 'only actions that kindle man's divine nature are worthy of the name of actions'. However she did not advise everyone to become a renunciate. She would dismiss spiritual arguments and controversies by stating that 'Everyone is right from his own standpoint,'.[6] She did not give formal initiations and refused to be called a guru, as she maintained that 'all paths are my paths' and 'I have no particular path'.[15]
She did not advocate the same spiritual methods for all: 'How can one impose limitations on the infinite by declaring this is the only pathâand, why should there be so many different religions and sects? Because through every one of them He gives Himself to Himself, so that each person may advance according to his inborn nature.' She herself has said (ref. Mother Reveals Herself), all forms of sadhana, known and unknown, just occurred to her in the form of a lila (play) without any conscious effort on her part. Thus her Sadhana can not be slotted into a specific area, for to do so would mean that she was somehow limited to that area and her mastery was also limited. She welcomed and conversed with devotees of different religions from Shaivaite, Vaishnavs, Tantric, or from Islam, Christianity, Zoroastrianism. Everyone was welcome and she was equally at ease while giving guidance to all practitioners of different faiths. Even now, the Muslim population of Kheora still refer to her as 'our own Ma'.[8]
She taught how to live a God-centered life in the world and provided the living inspiration to enable thousands to aspire to this most noble ideal.[6] She also advocated spiritual equality for women; for example, she opened up the sacred thread ritual, which had been performed by men only for centuries, to women, but only those who met the moral and personal requirements. Her style of teaching included jokes, songs and instructions on everyday life along with long discourses, silent meditation and recommended reading of scriptures.
Paramhansa Yogananda wrote about her in his book Autobiography of a Yogi.[1][16] His meeting with her is recounted in the chapter titled 'The Bengali 'Joy-Permeated Mother', where she explains her background:
Father, there is little to tell.' She spread her graceful hands in a deprecatory gesture. 'My consciousness has never associated itself with this temporary body. Before I came on this earth, Father, I was the same. As a little girl, I was the same. I grew into womanhood, but still I was the same. When the family in which I had been born made arrangements to have this body married, I was the same.. And, Father, in front of you now, I am the same. Ever afterward, though the dance of creation change around me in the hall of eternity, I shall be the same.[17]
The Publication Department of the Shree Shree Anandamayee Charitable Society in Kolkata regularly publishes her teaching in the periodical Anandavarta Quarterly. The Sri Sri Anandamayi Sangha in Haridwar organizes the annual Samyam Mahavrata congregation to devote a week to collective meditation, religious discourse and devotional music.[6]
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âWherever God may keep you at any time, from there itself must you undertake the pilgrimage to God-realization. In all forms, in action and non-action is He, the One Himself. While attending to your work with your hands, keep yourself bound to Him by sustaining japa, the constant remembrance of Him in your heart and mind. In God's empire, it is forgetfulness of Him that is detrimental. The way to Peace lies in the remembrance of Him and of Him alone.â
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âWhen by the flood of your tears
the inner and the outer have fused into one, you will find Her whom you sought with such anguish, nearer than the nearest, the very breath of life, the very core of every heart.â â
âEver afterward, though the dance of creation change around me in the hall of eternity, I shall be the same.â
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âWhether you worship Christ, Krishna, Kali or Allah, you actually worship the one Light that is also in you, since It pervades all things.â
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âIn water and on land, in trees, shrubs, and creepers-everywhere in the whole universe abides my Beloved. Further, all the various forms and modes of being that we behold, are they not expressions of my Beloved? For there is none save Him. He is smaller than the smallest, and greater than the greatest.â
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âTo cry out to Him is never in vain. So long as no response is received, the prayer must be continued.â
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âWhen in spite of all efforts one fails to catch a train, does this not make it clear from where all one's movements are being directed? Whatever is to happen to anyone, anywhere, at any time, is all fixed by Him.. His arrangements are perfectâ
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âPerfect resignation gives the deepest joy of all . Accept it as your sole resourceâ
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âI find one vast garden spread out all over the universe. All plants, all human beings, all higher mind bodies are about in this garden in various ways, each has his own uniqueness and beauty. Their presence and variety give me great delight. Every one of you adds with his special feature to the glory of the garden.â
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âHe alone knows to whom He will reveal Himself under which form. By what path and in what manner He attracts any particular man to Himself with great force is incomprehensible to the human intellect. The Path differs indeed for different pilgrims.â
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âThe remembrance of God must be sustained under all conditions and circumstances.â
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âWithout cause or reason His compassion , His grace are pouring forth at every instant.â
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âAt every breath try to be in communion with Him [Her] through His Name.â
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âTo live in the presence of God who is Truth ( satya ) -- this indeed is the meaning of satsang.â
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âWhen your mind becomes vacant,
endeavour to fill it with the awareness of God and His contemplation.â â
âBy doing service heart and mind are purified -- be convinced of this.â
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âJoys and sorrows are time born and cannot last. Therefore, do not be perturbed by them. The greater the difficulties and obstructions, the more intense will be your endeavor to cling to His feet and the more will your prayer increase from within.â
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âOne of God's Name is Love . He Himself resides within all , at every moment , everywhere.â
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âFamily life, which is the Ashrama of the householder, can also take you in His direction, provided it is accepted as an asrama. Lived in this spirit, it helps man to progress towards Self-realization.
Nevertheless, if you hanker after anything such as name, fame or position, God will bestow it on you, but you will not feel satisfied. The Kingdom of God is a whole, and unless you are admitted to the whole of it you cannot remain content. He grants you just a little, only to keep Your discontent alive, for without discontent there can be no progress. You, a scion of the Immortal, can never become reconciled to the realm of death, neither does God allow you to remain in it. He Himself kindles the sense of want in you by granting you a small thing, only to whet your appetite for a greater one. This is His method by which He urges you on. The traveller on this path finds it difficult and feels troubled, but one who has eyes to see can clearly perceive that the pilgrim is advancing. The distress that is experienced burns to ashes all pleasure derived from worldly things. This is what is called âtapasyaâ. What obstructs one on the spiritual path bears within itself seeds of future suffering. Yet the heartache, the anguish over the effects of these obstructions, are the beginning of an awakening to Consciousness.â â
âHe who has created the universe is Himself present in all circumstances and conditions.â
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âLet His Name be ever with you; imperceptibly , relentlessly
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âSolely by turning to God is there any hope for man to gain peace.â
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